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		<title>Comment on Wind Turbines &#8211; Small is Sweet by Quentin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quentin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Your needs are modest, but for any sort of reliable supply you are going to need a battery based off grid system. We do produce an off-grid system combining both wind and solar PV, but this is way beyond what you would need. 

I would suggest a simple system with a 12V or 24V battery pack, a marine turbine and an inverter. I lived on a boat for three years powered by a small Ampair machine, but for a fridge and television, unless you have exceptional winds, you may need somethig a little bit bigger. For summertime coverage (particularly the fridge), I would add in a solar PV panel and a solar controller. 

My preference would be for 24V - if you increase the voltage, it reduces the current and the required wire sizes. You can still get 24V bulbs and inverters, and later if you want to build on the system, you can get larger inverters etc., that all work on this voltage. 

The batteries are the critical issue. If you buy a suitable battery, and ensure that you only ever discharge it to 50% of its capacity, it can delivery up to 2,000 cycles. Most deep cycle batteries from golf carts and fork lifts are not particularly suited for off grid systems. This is because they are not designed to spend long periods in a state of low charge, as often happens in off grid systems. 

We can supply suitable batteries, and solar PVs but for the turbine, inverter etc., I would rummage around the yachtie mags. Q</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Your needs are modest, but for any sort of reliable supply you are going to need a battery based off grid system. We do produce an off-grid system combining both wind and solar PV, but this is way beyond what you would need. </p>
<p>I would suggest a simple system with a 12V or 24V battery pack, a marine turbine and an inverter. I lived on a boat for three years powered by a small Ampair machine, but for a fridge and television, unless you have exceptional winds, you may need somethig a little bit bigger. For summertime coverage (particularly the fridge), I would add in a solar PV panel and a solar controller. </p>
<p>My preference would be for 24V &#8211; if you increase the voltage, it reduces the current and the required wire sizes. You can still get 24V bulbs and inverters, and later if you want to build on the system, you can get larger inverters etc., that all work on this voltage. </p>
<p>The batteries are the critical issue. If you buy a suitable battery, and ensure that you only ever discharge it to 50% of its capacity, it can delivery up to 2,000 cycles. Most deep cycle batteries from golf carts and fork lifts are not particularly suited for off grid systems. This is because they are not designed to spend long periods in a state of low charge, as often happens in off grid systems. </p>
<p>We can supply suitable batteries, and solar PVs but for the turbine, inverter etc., I would rummage around the yachtie mags. Q</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wind Turbines &#8211; Small is Sweet by Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 08:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to ask some question on wind turbines, i don&#039;t know were to start on all the different kind of turbines,

We have a small cottage in the country &amp; we are still using tilly lamp we think it&#039;s time to move forwords a bit and stay eco, we would be just looking for a turbine to power up, lets say three light bulbs, a fridge, a t.v. have you any idea what type , brand of turbine would suit our needs, we would be very gratefull if you could help, many thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to ask some question on wind turbines, i don&#8217;t know were to start on all the different kind of turbines,</p>
<p>We have a small cottage in the country &amp; we are still using tilly lamp we think it&#8217;s time to move forwords a bit and stay eco, we would be just looking for a turbine to power up, lets say three light bulbs, a fridge, a t.v. have you any idea what type , brand of turbine would suit our needs, we would be very gratefull if you could help, many thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wind Turbine Outtakes by Melly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 04:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BION I&#039;m ipresmsed! Cool post!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Training by Using the Wind &#171; Eco Ireland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Using the Wind &#171; Eco Ireland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 20:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 20:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on At last! Turbine fully tested and ready to roll. by Quentin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quentin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 17:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Martin,

Most wind turbines have three blades with a fairly broad blade to provide structural integrity. A single blade would only catch all of the wind going through it if it was rotating at a very high speed in relation to the wind going through it. The optimum turbine would have an infinite number of infinitely narrow blades. 

The turbines you see used for pumping water etc., are usually required to rotate at a fairly constant speed, regardless of the winds speed. You don&#039;t need more water on a windy day. Above a certain RPM, these turbines self-stall as one blade causes turbulence on the next one. 

Wind turbine blades are generally hand laid up and are expensive to produce. On larger wind turbines, if you had two blades for example, the wind speed is higher for the blade that is reaching upwards (at 12 o&#039;clock) than for blade at 6 o&#039;clock. The turbine shaft will constantly be twisting this way and that. For that reason, they have three blades as the blades at 4 o&#039;clock and 8 o&#039;clock more or less balance the opposite load on the uppermost blade. 

Smaller turbines have three blades mostly for economical reasons, but once they get up to their working speed, they do capture all the wind running between the blades. At lower wind speeds, and correspondingly lower RPM, they tend to lose some of the wind. 

We found that six blades work very well at lower rotational speeds, and this reduces noise at high wind speeds, and increases output at low wind speeds. Our blades are injection moulded, so once the mould is paid for, the price per blade is quite low. So it makes sense for us, but not for everyone... 

There is a paper &lt;a href=&quot;http://turbotricity.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Multiblade-Theory.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; which provides more info on all this. 

Best wishes, Quentin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Martin,</p>
<p>Most wind turbines have three blades with a fairly broad blade to provide structural integrity. A single blade would only catch all of the wind going through it if it was rotating at a very high speed in relation to the wind going through it. The optimum turbine would have an infinite number of infinitely narrow blades. </p>
<p>The turbines you see used for pumping water etc., are usually required to rotate at a fairly constant speed, regardless of the winds speed. You don&#8217;t need more water on a windy day. Above a certain RPM, these turbines self-stall as one blade causes turbulence on the next one. </p>
<p>Wind turbine blades are generally hand laid up and are expensive to produce. On larger wind turbines, if you had two blades for example, the wind speed is higher for the blade that is reaching upwards (at 12 o&#8217;clock) than for blade at 6 o&#8217;clock. The turbine shaft will constantly be twisting this way and that. For that reason, they have three blades as the blades at 4 o&#8217;clock and 8 o&#8217;clock more or less balance the opposite load on the uppermost blade. </p>
<p>Smaller turbines have three blades mostly for economical reasons, but once they get up to their working speed, they do capture all the wind running between the blades. At lower wind speeds, and correspondingly lower RPM, they tend to lose some of the wind. </p>
<p>We found that six blades work very well at lower rotational speeds, and this reduces noise at high wind speeds, and increases output at low wind speeds. Our blades are injection moulded, so once the mould is paid for, the price per blade is quite low. So it makes sense for us, but not for everyone&#8230; </p>
<p>There is a paper <a href="http://turbotricity.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Multiblade-Theory.pdf" rel="nofollow">here</a> which provides more info on all this. </p>
<p>Best wishes, Quentin.</p>
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		<title>Comment on At last! Turbine fully tested and ready to roll. by Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 17:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mention that your design is now using 6 blades instead of 3.
One question I have, no doubt naive, is how come modern windmills dont have a similar blade/wing design as a childs toy windmill (like the one thats used at the beach) or the type that was used as a water pump on farmsteads in the US Western days? You mention that your design is now using 6 blades instead of 3.
One question I have, no doubt naive, is how come modern windmills dont have a similar blade/wing design as a childs toy windmill (like the one thats used at the beach) or the type that was used as a water pump on farmsteads in the US Western days?
eg: &lt;a herf=&quot;http://www.windmills.net/garden_toys.shtm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.windmills.net&lt;/a&gt;

These have mutiple blades that would seem to fill up more area of the wind catchment. I didnt look up why but no doubt science and wind tunnel/computer modelling has determined that &#039;less is more&#039;. Maybe there is some research on the topic that you have found or can point me to?

Best Wishes for the Year,

Martin

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mention that your design is now using 6 blades instead of 3.<br />
One question I have, no doubt naive, is how come modern windmills dont have a similar blade/wing design as a childs toy windmill (like the one thats used at the beach) or the type that was used as a water pump on farmsteads in the US Western days? You mention that your design is now using 6 blades instead of 3.<br />
One question I have, no doubt naive, is how come modern windmills dont have a similar blade/wing design as a childs toy windmill (like the one thats used at the beach) or the type that was used as a water pump on farmsteads in the US Western days?<br />
eg: <a herf="http://www.windmills.net/garden_toys.shtm" rel="nofollow">http://www.windmills.net</a></p>
<p>These have mutiple blades that would seem to fill up more area of the wind catchment. I didnt look up why but no doubt science and wind tunnel/computer modelling has determined that &#8216;less is more&#8217;. Maybe there is some research on the topic that you have found or can point me to?</p>
<p>Best Wishes for the Year,</p>
<p>Martin</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wind Turbine Outtakes by Quentin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quentin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris, We are having to look into these aspects because of enquiries from Antartica and Greenland (for off-grid monitoring stations). However, our main concern there is bearing lubricant and suitable polymers. The lateral force on the blades at 3kw is 3,000N and the hub, blade root etc. are able to take forces well above these limits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris, We are having to look into these aspects because of enquiries from Antartica and Greenland (for off-grid monitoring stations). However, our main concern there is bearing lubricant and suitable polymers. The lateral force on the blades at 3kw is 3,000N and the hub, blade root etc. are able to take forces well above these limits.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wind Turbine Outtakes by Nard Slabbers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nard Slabbers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 21:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sounds promising. Good that your working on a small Irish windturbine!
Good Luck and keep me informed, Nard, Mountshannon, Co. Clare</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sounds promising. Good that your working on a small Irish windturbine!<br />
Good Luck and keep me informed, Nard, Mountshannon, Co. Clare</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wind Turbine Outtakes by Chris Beier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Beier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 18:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the turbine rotational torque is temporarily increased/halted owing to ice/snow buildup have impellers been tested for structural integrity to resist structural shear at no rotation.

Regards
Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the turbine rotational torque is temporarily increased/halted owing to ice/snow buildup have impellers been tested for structural integrity to resist structural shear at no rotation.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Chris</p>
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